Thank god your safe as you and your sisters are my friends god bless you Anna.

Sorry to burst your fantasy, Scott, but it's not "our" will but God's. You can deny him and ignore him but one day , you will be standing before him with no valid excuse.

Scott, that would be like hearing an argument from a Jew about how Nazis are contributing towards Jew hating, and then telling the Jew that they should just stay out of Germany's business.

And by the way, all laws are human constructs, including the one that says you should be respected as a human. Human rights aren't "natural", either.

Wrong. Real marriage is an extension of basic human biology, wherein a male and a female have sex to produce offspring. That natural biological urge brings men and women together for many other purposes, including forming the basic matrix of human society, which is based on marriage relationships stretching back over many generations.
The homosexual lifestyle choice includes none of this, and does not contribute to the survival of the human species.
What homosexuals do together is not marriage. Find another word, and stop trying to hijack what doesn't belong to you.

Willow, stop putting words in his mouth. Robert did not say that.

Scott, perhaps you should read past the headline and read the article.

Anna Maria made the wise point that a political disagreement does not need to turn into something ugly. Where do Anna Maria's rights end? Where you say, "Stop trying to push your will on people" ? Is that where her rights end? At your opinion and command? You are doing exactly what you accuse her of.

In a country that values free speech and differences of opinion, you seem a bit out of step.

Have you seen this? A taliban sympathizer arrested after planning bombings he hoped would be pinned on the 'right-wing extremists' groups (you know, like anybody that doesn't agree with leftist ideology) and begin a civil war.
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/02/08/fbi-arrests-taliban-sympathizer-who-wanted-to-bomb-oakland-bank-and-frame-right-wing-groups-to-start-a-civil-war/

Ma'am, SPLC had nothing to do with that demented man's actions. I don't know who put u up to write this but you are pushing a serious deception. And I am glad that the Family Research Council treats you so well. It's probably because you are not gay. FRC calls us terrorists, tools of Satan and pedophiles. Members of FRC, such as Peter Sprigg, want to see us either deported or in jail for being gay. And I haven't even mentioned the junk science propaganda FRC pushes against us. I am glad that Corkins was stopped but you are clearly working for a hate group. If u blame SPLC for Corkins then u should blame FRC for anti-gay violence.

Gabriella,
You say: "Alternatively, FRC hasn't inspired people to commit violent acts against other Americans."
Wake up. Unless you mean to imply that gay people are not Americans.

You and your followers have slaughtered 55 million babies and counting. No one wants to jail you for making your lifestyle choice; it's about your behaviors, like molesting "boy toys", and parading around in your fetish outfits in public in places like SF.
Your beliefs don't entitle you to violate human decency in public.
You wish to destroy our society by destroying marriage and the fabric of human society, in your fanatic zeal to force the rest of us to regard what you do as "normal".

WASHINGTON

February 8, 2013

"It is time to stop Southern Poverty Law Center labeling FRC, and other organizations that just want to make society a better place, as "hate groups." I only pray that people will learn from this shooting that wrongful labels and violence are not ways to solve political disagreements. Let's stop the hate to prevent acts of violence like this shooting from occurring again."

Dear Ms. Hoffman,

The problem is that you do not seem to understand that this battle is not over religious beliefs. It is over the fact that organisations like FRC continue to lie about the LGBTQ community.

The shooter at FRC was not an agent of the SPLC nor was he motivated by the appearance of FRC on a Hate Group watch list because of the lies FRC has spread and continues to spread about fellow citizens who are LGBTQ.

In the recent battle over the Boy Scouts, FRC has outlined the following deceptions and made the following claims:

The LGBT community is viewed entirely as adult gay men.

The only aspect of a person that defines a gay identity is participation in same-sex sexual behavior.

Nothing is apparently more important to gay men than having as much sex as possible and talking about it at all times.

For gay men, there is no difference between being attracted to other adult gay men and being attracted to underage boys.

Gay men are so obsessed with having sex that consent means nothing to them.

Even though the men most commonly found abusing boys identify as heterosexual, the fact that their victims were boys means that they must be secretly gay, as opposed to just being pedophiles.

It’s impossible for a child to learn that gay people even exist without becoming “sexualized” and somehow put at risk.

So long as homosexuality is prohibited, all Boy Scouts will remain totally chaste and never think, learn about, or talk about the existence of sex.

The larger reality is that FRC and similar groups believe that their so called brand of Christianity is superior to all other religions or non-believers and that unless the populace embraces their world and cultural view they are abominations, evil, twisted, etc.

The U.S. Constitution embraces the idea that Americans must have free speech and freedom of religion, the problem is that FRC and other groups make no allowances for that hence in fact, with their methodology and lying tactics, they are in fact hate groups.

Muslims? Buddhists? Nonbelievers? Vilified by these so-called Christians.

Finally Ms. Hoffman, the deaths of hundreds of LGBTQ youths who killed themselves over being bullied and gay-bashed can be laid at the doorsteps of any of these so-called christian groups.

There is nothing wrong, evil, twisted about the LGBTQ community madam. but there's alot wrong with hypocritical attitudes of FRC and other groups who have become little more than modern day Pharisees.

Should you wish to discuss this further, please feel free to contact me.

Brody Levesque
Washington Bureau Chief
LGBTQNation Magazine * LGBTQNation.com

WASHINGTON

February 9 2013

Dear Jo,

I have been a working journalist for well over 3 decades and it is my job to lay out the facts. You may chose to interpret them based on your perceptions of what I have written, which is precisely the purpose and mission of my career filed.

The problem is that no one has the right to declare an immutable characteristic of any human being as "as sin or morally wrong" anymore than being prejudiced because of a person's race or gender identity.

In the past 3 years I have written entirely way too many stories about LGBTQ youth, whose deaths were the direct result of bullying fostered in an intolerant atmosphere promulgated by religious teachings or indoctrination.

Bluntly though Jo? I can tell you with 100% certainly that religion is a choice where as being LGBTQ is not.

Factor common sense into the equation as well. Do you honestly think that any LGBTQ person would willing "choose" to be LGBTQ knowing the horrid discrimination and vitriol that would be visited upon them?

I have reported from all stretches of this globe in my career and I have seen that for the most part, religion plays the principal factor in shedding of blood and the destruction of the basic goodness of humanity.

The last point of they chose to self eliminate? I'll be kind here, but bluntly put, that is a judgement based obviously on little or no facts. I have talked to may of the families of these youths. They saw no other way out of their torment. Of course it has been my experience that your type of so-called christian beliefs really doesn't care.

That belief and statement reflects the tragic consequences of something good run amok. In this case your so called christian beliefs.

Finally, SPLC pointed out the deceptions. lies, and intolerance is all.
FRC and even AFA and the others choose to continue to claim and maintain that they are the superior in this battle and that is where the mistake is. Blame SPLC Jo? No, that is a case of "Don't kill the messenger because of the message."

Sincerely,


Brody Levesque

Mr. Levesque,
I have read articles from the FRC and your wording of the FRC's statements about homosexuals are very misleading and hateful. Christians do not hate the person, just as God does not hate the person. God and his true followers hate the acts. If you want the truth about the Creator, then you need to do the research of a working journalist. Read Leviticus 18:22, 1 Corinthians 6:9, and 1 Timothy 1:9-10. Marriage between a man and a woman is symbolic of the church as explained in Ephesians 5:22-33. Lastly, King Solomon admonishes us that we are not to be wise in our own eyes, but we should fear the Lord, and depart from evil (Proverbs 3:7). There is a way that seems right unto man; but the end thereof leads to death Proverbs 14:12). His words are my words. His love and wisdom come first above all things.

Disagreement with your lifestyle choice(not "immutable" at all) is not intolerance, it is the right of every American. The violent response of your "community" to any disagreement with your political agenda rises to the level of terrorism, but political and economic. Your attempt to shut down Chik-fil-A should have been punished with the full force of law.
The Fourth Amendment entitles every American to not be deprived of life liberty or property without due process of law.
Your "community" wants to deprive all other Americans of that right when they disagree with your choices.
Shame on you.

Mr. Brody and Samuel,

While I do not agree with Perkins and I do not like his politics, he has a right to express them. I think Mr. Perkins is disingenuous and his politics are harmful to freedom (I say this because Mr. Perkins would endorse a communist as long as there was an R behind his name). That said, this young lady on here is exactly right. The SPLC is a hate group, full of bigots and liars. They distribute their material to law enforcement and most law enforcement tell me that they would like to wipe their behind with the SPLC's report. Furthermore, why is it that people like yourself think it is ok to go and bully people like the Boy Scouts into accepting your version of what is right and wrong. You are not right, you are WRONG. It is wrong to attempt to FORCE your views on another organization. Why not start your own? I guess most people will disagree with another version of NAMBLA. You are the most intolerant and bigoted people of all. Hey, I do not believe in a marriage license either since it is a religious function and not that of the state. Therefore, I am no threat to gays. They have a right to do what they want as long as they do not infringe on the rights of others. It is your type that are no better than a communist country as you go about trying to force your lifestyle on people that do not want no part of it. Who is anti-freedom here? Religion has been counter-productive in most countries but let us be real here, you would abolish the right of a Christian to peaceably assemble if you had a choice so you are the one who is anti-freedom here.

Brody, for a journalist of three decades, you are a poor communicator and your grasp of logic is sadly lacking. Your posts are emotionally charged and present your interpretations of others' positions as if they were actual statements made by the others. You would be more persuasive if you included the actual quotations, but had you done that you certainly wouldn't have had the effect you were striving for.

You wrote, "Do you honestly think that any LGBTQ person would willing (sic) 'choose' to be LGBTQ knowing the horrid discrimination and vitriol that would be visited upon them?" You were correct when you said that people choose to be Christians, but do you recognize the hatred and vitriol that is visited upon us by non-Christians? Christians are blamed for ills throughout the world. Some of those ills were caused by people professing to be Christians but we're all lumped into the same group and blamed collectively for the sins of a few. We choose to be Christians even though we are blamed, marginalized, and mocked. You said yourself, "religion plays the principal factor in shedding of blood and the destruction of the basic goodness of humanity." You disregard the countless lives that are saved and improved by Christian charities throughout the world. People make lifestyle choices based upon their beliefs and convictions, even if it opens them up to ridicule and mockery, and those choices happen on both sides of the political aisle..

If we disagree with the idea of gay marriage, we're labeled "homophobic." We aren't afraid of homosexuals, but we disagree with their behavior. Will it advance Christianity if we label people such as you "Christophobes?" Probably not, because name-calling is a childish way of responding to someone with whom you disagree. Are tensions raised or reduced when one group labels another a "hate group"?

As for your comment about homosexual kids choosing to "self-eliminate" they absolutely made that choice. They might not have felt that they had a better choice, but they had a choice nonetheless.

Finally, Ms. Hoffman was pointing out the direct connection that Floyd Lee Corkins II made to the SPLC, yet you find that to be of no consequence. Since you have studied so many youth suicides, do you have any evidence that directly connects any such suicide to statements made by the FRC? If so, you would strengthen your argument by posting it. If the FRC has done this amazingly horrible job of prompting homophobes to beat up gay kids, I would think there would be scientific studies - or at least suicide notes - to show the connection. Since you didn't bother to make such a connection in your previous posts it's probably safe to assume that none exists. Society would be better served if inflammatory rhetoric were reduced and people engaged in well-reasoned, logical, adult conversations.

The Left is preparing for political violence, plain and simple. What we are seeing now, in this very comment thread, is the same dynamic observed in all pre-genocidal societies.

Just a couple of key elements that I'll briefly mention: 1. The attribution of moral turpitude to opposing political beliefs (not just wrong, but evil). 2. The attribution of all societal ills to one's political opponents. 3. The politicization of EVERYTHING (mirroring Mussolini's statement "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state"). 4. As a corollary to 3, the use of every available cultural institution to amplify this hyper-politicization. 5. The appearance of sporadic violence by lone individuals (the vanguard of the coming popular violence).

The Bolsheviks behaved this way prior to the Russian Revolution and the Holodomor. The Turks behaved this way prior to the Armenian Genocide. The Germans behaved this way prior to the Holocaust. The Hutus behaved this way prior to their efforts to slaughter their Tutsi rivals.

And now the American Left is preparing to "cut the tall trees down." 1. Conservatives aren't just wrong, they're evil (homophobic, driving gay teens to suicide, etc.). 2. Conservatives are the source of all societal ills (greed, hate, murder, violence, rape, financial crimes, poverty, racism). 3 and 4. Progressivism is forced on the population everywhere. Academia, religion, mass media, fashion, the theater (including especially film), and every other major societal institution are all used to amplify progressivism uber alles. No conservatives need apply. 5. Numerous examples abound, from the Al-Qaeda sympathizer who wanted to execute a false-flag terror attack and blame it on conservatives, to Chris Dorner (read the full manifesto, which the media has so conveniently censored), to this Corkins whack-job.

The vanguard is on the move. The main force will not be far behind unless we are somehow able to short-circuit this dynamic. The Left must be made to understand that theirs are not the only rights that should be respected, that it is inappropriate and dangerous to use the power of the state to destroy your political enemies (e.g. these frequent wedding cake/photography lawsuits). These would-be tyrants must be reined in.

I have absolutely no wish for this violence to come. Leftists love to imagine conservatives gleefully cheering as six year-olds are gunned down, or eagerly awaiting the Second Civil War. Hardly. The toll of human suffering would be so immense as to be beyond anything any of us has ever experienced in our lifetimes. It is to be avoided at almost all costs.

Notice I say almost. Because progressives should not mistake meekness for weakness. We will not allow you to fill the mass graves that always accompany socialism's worst excesses, not without a fight.

The FRC is a hate group and Anna-Maria presents no evidence to refute that except to say she knew nice people there. My related/response article.

http://www.pancakelanding.com/newsopinion/the-response-to-hate-shouldnt-be-violence/

Ms. Hoffman, I suppose you don’t think your group is “endangering” the lives of gay people when your group puts bogus “studies” that gay people are frequent child molesters?! Nothing your group says is backed up by the American Psychological Association, nor the American Academy of Pediatrics, nor the Child Molestation Research and Prevention Institute, nor Dr. A. Nicholas Groth, a pioneer in the field of sexual abuse of children whose work your group distorted which Dr. Groth wrote a letter to your group demanding to remove his name from a Family Research Council article about homosexual child molestation! Since when is painting gay people as child molesters supposed to be “teaching the love of Jesus Christ?!” Should we do the same thing with black people and Jews?! Your boss Tony Perkins also spoke many years ago at an event for the racist organization Council of Conservative Citizens and also has ties to a former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard David Duke who Perkins used Duke’s mailing list for a campaign! You want the FRC off the Southern Poverty Law Center’s hate group list? It’s simple: Stop putting out bogus “studies” saying that homosexuals are more likely to molest children than heterosexuals! So many times I hear about gay people being referred to as “faggot child molesters” from bigots and hate sites, where does the “child molester” myth about gay people come from? Groups like yours that continue to spew out that kind of fear and hatred that makes these people hate gay people! Instead of blaming the SPLC for this crime, maybe you and your group should look at yourselves to blame for all the garbage you say about gay people! While I don’t condone the actions of Floyd Lee Corkins II, he most likely got fed up with your group saying bad things about gay people instead of hearing the SPLC say your group is a hate group! Grow up! YOU BETTER PRAY MS. HOFFMAN THAT NO ONE EVER GOES OUT TO KILL GAY PEOPLE BECAUSE HE READ FROM YOUR GROUP’S WEBSITE ABOUT GAYS BEING CHILD MOLESTERS, BECAUSE IF THAT EVER HAPPENS IS WHEN THE FAMILIES OF THE VICTIMS ARE GOING TO COME AFTER YOUR GROUP WITH A LAWSUIT TO SHOW YOU AND THE REST OF THE FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL THE TRUE MEANING OF “PRO-FAMILY”!!!